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Grant Harvey

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How OpenAI Beat Every Human Team at the World's Hardest Coding Competition

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The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Today, we are tackling one of the most interesting ideas in AI right now.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

What happens when machines start to seem conscious, even if they're not?

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Yeah, yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So in your essay, you argued that AI will actually mimic consciousness in ways that trigger human empathy, even though there is no inner experience.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Could you elaborate on what you think the risk of that is and why we should worry about it?

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Totally.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

And I mean, we just saw this paper that came out yesterday from OpenAI that said 700 million people, I think weekly users are using it.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

And 73% of those people are using it as a life coach or using it for advice about their life.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So when you put that in the context of what you just said, it kind of makes you go, whoa, and take a step back.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

One of the ideas in the essay that you wrote was making sure that it always identifies itself as an AI.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So never allowing it to pretend to be human, for example, which I think makes a lot of sense.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

I talked to some of the people at IBM and they very much look at AI as just another tool and not in the kind of like AGI, feel the AGI of open AI.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So that's kind of interesting.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

It's a good mantra, good mission.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

But labeling it is really good.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

But is there a tension between the user demand and user engagement that wants more human-like experiences and the imperative that you have to avoid that sort of mimicry?

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Oh, yeah, that's so wild.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

I was thinking about that with the three laws of robotics, and there was an essay I read, I don't even remember, a couple months ago now, about how we should add a fourth one, which is an AI may never deceive a human.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So, you know, there's like, AI cannot harm a human, AI cannot...