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The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

And why is looking at the thinking so much more effective than what the end result?

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Mm-hmm.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Well, as they get better, it's like the risk of there being these catastrophic mistakes grow, I feel like, because of the trust, which is a good thing because it can do a lot more.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

But yeah, that's fascinating.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Well, you have a background working in robotics.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

That makes me wonder if it is more like a muscle Twitch kind of thing where it's in the activations.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

I don't really understand this at all, so perhaps you could break this down for us and the listeners.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

But if you were to use a language model in a robotic scenario, how would this play out in a similar way?

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Perhaps that's not the right way to phrase that question, but do you know what I'm saying?

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Right.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Maybe.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

That's where I would worry.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Like, let's say like you're training a robot and the robot knows, oh, I need to go over there, but it doesn't know it can't flail its giant mechanical arms and smack everybody between here and there.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

That's kind of what I was picturing.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Exactly.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Right.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

That makes sense.

The Neuron: AI Explained
OpenAI Researcher Explains How AI Hides Its Thinking (w/ OpenAI’s Bowen Baker)

Well, how would this play out in practice if we deployed these systems at work?