Grant Harvey

Please tell us.

That's good.

So by exit criteria, you're talking about the test that it has to do to make sure that it works or exit criteria is just like, I know I'm fairly confident it'll be done if I do it five times.

When they bring you in.

Yeah.

Command line interfaces are having a moment right now for people who are not coders discovering them and being like,

Like, oh my gosh, there's an OS.

It's a computer agent.

It can do everything I want it to do.

How would you recommend people who are not engineers and not coders use Gemini CLI?

And Google has a lot of other tools.

So maybe you could also kind of contextualize the other tools that Google has and your thoughts on them.

Do we call this?

This might be a controversial question, but can you use other models, like let's say an open source model inside Gemini CLI?

So because we're open source, though, we have seen a number of people fork our code, which is intended.

Actually, let's dig a little deeper there because I was actually installing it earlier today on a new laptop.

And I wanted to do it with Docker.

Yeah, because I was like, you know, there's been some weird NPM package situations lately with security, so I don't want to be installing a bunch of stuff.

So I was able to actually do it with Docker.

But then once you get to the point where you have to choose the API console and the other stuff, it gets a little confusing.