Grant Harvey

We weren't involved five years ago when it was much more simple.

We came in at the complex end because existing vendors weren't meeting the need and we met the need and we continue to meet the need.

So that's really our world.

No, I think 100%.

I think the need is growing, not shrinking.

We're not going to complete data.

We're not.

Yeah.

There's always more data.

I also, yeah.

And I'm also much more of like a super intelligence there than lots of other people because like this is just better predictive text.

It's better and better and better and better.

And maybe there'll be something when we hit the right number of sort of node equivalents, like the number of neurons in the human brain and suddenly there'll be magic.

I can't predict that, but I...

I don't know.

I'm not betting on it as much.

There'll need to be other structural advances that I'm very much not qualified to even understand, let alone talk about, to get to, like, AGI.

Like, it's revealing that the people talking about AGI are the ones very, very incentivized to talk about AGI.

So I think we're going to, but we are going to see more of a data need because people are going to try and make incremental improvements for competition.

And also we're going to start to see more like second level users, like not the foundation model builders, but the people who are building complex products in the healthcare space, in the financial space, whatever, using agents, using models who still have a need for trajectory data, for evaluative data, for data for reward modeling, for improving whatever.