Greg Jenner

But that official stamp of authority then means presumably the church is then looking more closely at what's happening because suddenly the church authorities show up and go, hang on a second. What? There's a woman preaching, claiming mystic visions. We'd better check this out because we now get an official process of interrogation, Michelle.

Oh, so the fear here is that she is being visited by Satan, not by an angel. Yes. Gotcha. Okay. So we get the provost of Pescia, Stefano Cecchi, sort of showing up to physically examine the stigmata, the wounds, starts asking questions, Sophie. It's becoming a bit official. What do you think Bartolomeo does, Sophie, the sort of best friend who's been appointed?

Oh, so the fear here is that she is being visited by Satan, not by an angel. Yes. Gotcha. Okay. So we get the provost of Pescia, Stefano Cecchi, sort of showing up to physically examine the stigmata, the wounds, starts asking questions, Sophie. It's becoming a bit official. What do you think Bartolomeo does, Sophie, the sort of best friend who's been appointed?

And Bartolomea says that she had to put the heart back in.

And Bartolomea says that she had to put the heart back in.

Sophie, have you ever done that for a friend? Have you ever? Have I ever pushed a heart back in?

Sophie, have you ever done that for a friend? Have you ever? Have I ever pushed a heart back in?

Okay, so Benedetta has a very loyal friend here, and Bartolomeo is going on the record saying, yes, the heart came out, I saw it, I put it back in. So that means Benedetta passes the first interrogation, the first investigation, but there will be another, because obviously we said that woman of ill repute is a phrase that gets used.

Okay, so Benedetta has a very loyal friend here, and Bartolomeo is going on the record saying, yes, the heart came out, I saw it, I put it back in. So that means Benedetta passes the first interrogation, the first investigation, but there will be another, because obviously we said that woman of ill repute is a phrase that gets used.

Why does she pass the first test, but a second one is launched, Michelle? What does she do, Benedetta, that's more provocative or claimed to do?

Why does she pass the first test, but a second one is launched, Michelle? What does she do, Benedetta, that's more provocative or claimed to do?

That's all it needs, right? That's all you need. You just need someone. You just need a man to say, get up, come on, sort it out.

That's all it needs, right? That's all you need. You just need someone. You just need a man to say, get up, come on, sort it out.

Not dead. Let's talk about the second investigation because this time around, Sophie, it's not the local authorities who are sort of showing up to have an interrogation. The Pope has sent someone. The Pope! Mr. Pope himself. He sent a nuncio, which is an official figure, a sort of a bunch of officials showing up in 1622. They're there for several months. They're outsiders, right?

Not dead. Let's talk about the second investigation because this time around, Sophie, it's not the local authorities who are sort of showing up to have an interrogation. The Pope has sent someone. The Pope! Mr. Pope himself. He sent a nuncio, which is an official figure, a sort of a bunch of officials showing up in 1622. They're there for several months. They're outsiders, right?

They're not used to the community. They're not used to her. So they're a bit more interrogative. It doesn't go so well this time, Sophie. They're suspicious.

They're not used to the community. They're not used to her. So they're a bit more interrogative. It doesn't go so well this time, Sophie. They're suspicious.

And they find satanic signs around the general locale of the nunnery. Michelle, what is the evidence gathered against Benedetta?

And they find satanic signs around the general locale of the nunnery. Michelle, what is the evidence gathered against Benedetta?

So, Michelle, is this... I'm slightly worried where we're going next, but are we going next into sort of, you know, demonic territory of, you know, naughty things?