Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
So every time you're actually saying โ
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
you can't say that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
You're actually depriving yourself of the knowledge of what people really think.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
You're causing what Timur Karan, who's on our board of advisors, calls preference falsification.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
You end up with an inaccurate picture of the world, which by the way, in a lot of cases, because there are activists who want to restrict more speech, they actually tend to think that people are more prejudiced than they might be.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
And actually, these kind of restrictions, there was a book called Racial Paranoia
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
Um, that came out in about 15 years ago that was making the point that the imposition of some of these codes can sometimes make people think that the only thing holding you back from being a raging racist, um, are these codes.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
So it must be really, really bad.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
It can actually make all these things worse.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
And one, which we talk about in the book, one very real practical way it makes things worse is.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
is when you censor people, it doesn't change their opinion.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
It just encourages them to not share it with people who will get them in trouble.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
So it leads them to talk to people who they already agree with, and group polarization takes off.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
So we have some interesting data in the book about how driving people off of Twitter, for example, in 2017, and then again, I think in 2020,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
Driving people to gab led to greater radicalization among those people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
It's a very predictable force.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
Censorship doesn't actually change people's minds and it pushes them in directions that actually by very solid research will actually make them more radicalized.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
So yeah, I think that the attempt to ban hate speech, it doesn't really protect us from it, but it gives the government such a vast opportunity.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
What people think, and I think it's important that we actually do.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#397 โ Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech
So I think that, you know, let's take, for example, QAnon.