Greg Lukianoff

Yeah, QAnon's wrong.

But where did it come from?

Why did they think that?

What's the motivation?

Who taught them it?

Who came up with these ideas?

This is important to understand history.

That's important to understand modern American politics.

And so if you put your scholar hat on, which you should be curious about kind of everyone, about where they're coming from.

Daryl Davis, who I'm sure you're familiar with, part of his goal was just simply to get to know where people were coming from.

And in the process, he actually de-radicalized a number of Klan's members.

When they actually realized that this black man who had befriended them actually was compassionate, was a decent person, they realized all their preconceptions were wrong.

So it can have a de-radicalizing factor, by the way.

But even when it doesn't, it's still really important to know what the bad people in your society think.

Honestly, in some ways, for your own safety, it's probably more important to know what the bad people in your society actually think.

Well, and meanwhile, just – and the reality check part of this is people always bring up, what about the Klan on campus?

I'm like, they're never invited.

I haven't seen a case where they've been invited.

Usually, the Klan argument gets thrown out when people are trying to excuse – and that's why we shouted down Ben Shapiro.

Right.