Greg McKeown

For 10 years, I have been asking the question, what is the primary bottleneck to living out essentialism or effortless ideas in practice in the world of relationships, teams, organizations?

What's the primary bottleneck?

And the answer to my surprise is that it isn't talent.

It's not strategy.

It's not execution.

The primary bottleneck is like confident misunderstanding.

We are wrong, we think we're right, and we act upon that.

And that's it.

That's it.

John, it's a pleasure to be with you.

Thank you.

I'll tell you the thing that stands out to me about my conversation with Jamil was a conversation that I don't remember if it was on or off air, but I am in the middle of new research, a doctorate at the University of Cambridge, a mid-career doctorate, which is just a terrible idea, and writing a book on the same ideas.

And he shared something that I thought was just such a brilliant insight and gave me a lot of permission and direction in what I was doing.

And it was this, that for about a hundred years,

psychology departments and then practitioners, so psychotherapists parted ways.

And psychology departments moved into the quantitative

realm, and as a stereotype of the point, you can imagine doing endless surveys.

Individuals fill out surveys about their experiences on any number of phenomena.

Of course, that's not the only kind of research that's been done in psychology departments, but overstating the point in order to make it.

Whereas on the other side, you've got these practitioners who are at least in conversation with one other person in therapy sessions.