Greg McKeown

We're going to tie all these together.

It's also almost verbatim language that I got from Eric Maddox.

Okay, so we're going to take the signal-to-noise ratio equation.

Okay, we're putting that aside.

Gandhi, you've mentioned, we touched upon it.

Now I want to talk about Eric Maddox, and this will all thread together.

Eric Maddox worked in the intelligence agency, and he was a Mandarin translator.

But he also took an eight week course in interrogation techniques.

So that's just minimum standard, basic certification for being able to do interrogation.

He does it.

He almost fails the class.

He doesn't like it.

He doesn't like what he's learning in there.

And he just goes, OK, put it aside.

Go back to what I was doing until the Iraq war erupts.

And as they're trying to gather together personnel, they're just literally looking through, okay, who has these two things checked on their, in their employee file.

And he matches the combination.

What it means in practical terms is he is sent immediately out of the blue to the front lines in to Crete in Iraq.

with no, he's never interrogated a prisoner ever.

And now he is required to do that 10, 12 hours every single day.