Greg Raiz

So around $800,000 to $900,000.

It's going to be above that in terms of sales and our margins are fine because the beginning of the year, those expenses were lower.

And so again, you have to kind of project from the beginning of the year, the expenses versus the end of the year growth.

And so while my costs now are closer to the 800, 900 beginning of the year, they were closer to 500, 600.

So there has been growth there as well.

Yeah, I mean, we use Salesforce.

We use things like Basecamp for a lot of our tools.

There's no... The tools that we really anchor on are things like Google for email and docs, Dropbox for some of our file sharing, InVision for some of our design tools, Jira for some of our bug tracking, things like that.

But none of these tools are like the...

None of them are hugely expensive, but they do add up when you have a lot of them.

It does happen.

I mean, we had one client where we were definitely generating about quarter billion dollars a year in revenue for them.

But on the flip side, I kind of remind myself that they had spent a decade building that core brand and business to get them there.

Top spot.

It was it wasn't HubSpot that we did some good stuff for HubSpot as well.

It's really like, yeah, that's that's the privilege that we have.

But they have the privilege as well of building these large global brands.

I mean, it's not it's a lot of work to become a Fortune 500 as well.

Yeah, it's actually kind of timely.

We just released an interesting product for the Perkins School for the Blind.