Gretchen Carlson
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And on the third date, I said to him, if you don't want to live in New York City eventually, don't call me back because that's where I'm going. And he said, well, luckily, I do want to live in New York City. So he called me back. That was my mindset. I was like, look, I've invested too much in my career already. This is where I want to go. Relationships sort of came second.
And on the third date, I said to him, if you don't want to live in New York City eventually, don't call me back because that's where I'm going. And he said, well, luckily, I do want to live in New York City. So he called me back. That was my mindset. I was like, look, I've invested too much in my career already. This is where I want to go. Relationships sort of came second.
But then in Cleveland, I got promoted. I was doing the weekend news there. I got promoted to the main Monday through Friday. And I was with another woman. And we were the first two female local primetime newscast in the country. Wow. And it was wonderful until it wasn't because it didn't work. It's not because it was two women. It just didn't rate.
But then in Cleveland, I got promoted. I was doing the weekend news there. I got promoted to the main Monday through Friday. And I was with another woman. And we were the first two female local primetime newscast in the country. Wow. And it was wonderful until it wasn't because it didn't work. It's not because it was two women. It just didn't rate.
And so the other woman was born and bred in Cleveland. So I was the likely one to go. So I got fired a week after I got back from my honeymoon. Ouch. I know. The general manager actually said to me something that was illegal. It still is. Was at the time, which was, don't worry. Now that you're married, you'll be fine. And I was like, what? I'm 32 years old. This is who I am.
And so the other woman was born and bred in Cleveland. So I was the likely one to go. So I got fired a week after I got back from my honeymoon. Ouch. I know. The general manager actually said to me something that was illegal. It still is. Was at the time, which was, don't worry. Now that you're married, you'll be fine. And I was like, what? I'm 32 years old. This is who I am.
This has nothing to do with being married. So I had a very tough first year of marriage because I was out of work and I knew to get another job, I was probably going to have to move to another place because that's the way TV works. And in fact, that's what happened. I ended up getting a job in Dallas. I moved to Dallas. My There was a lot of sacrifice there.
This has nothing to do with being married. So I had a very tough first year of marriage because I was out of work and I knew to get another job, I was probably going to have to move to another place because that's the way TV works. And in fact, that's what happened. I ended up getting a job in Dallas. I moved to Dallas. My There was a lot of sacrifice there.
But then she eventually moved to Dallas. I was only there 20 months. And then I got a job with CBS in New York. So we were both happy. And we moved there. And then I was a national correspondent for CBS. I traveled the world. It was an amazing experience. Not a good job if you wanted to have children. So I didn't have children at that point. I was on the road all the time.
But then she eventually moved to Dallas. I was only there 20 months. And then I got a job with CBS in New York. So we were both happy. And we moved there. And then I was a national correspondent for CBS. I traveled the world. It was an amazing experience. Not a good job if you wanted to have children. So I didn't have children at that point. I was on the road all the time.
Then I got promoted to do the Saturday morning show for CBS. And, you know, morning shows are kind of a comfortable spot for women if they want to have children because... You're doing serious hard news, but you're also doing more kind of fluff and you talk about yourself a little bit more. And so being pregnant and all that was probably a better option at that time.
Then I got promoted to do the Saturday morning show for CBS. And, you know, morning shows are kind of a comfortable spot for women if they want to have children because... You're doing serious hard news, but you're also doing more kind of fluff and you talk about yourself a little bit more. And so being pregnant and all that was probably a better option at that time.
So then I, you know, I had two kids back to back. And then when my son was two months, three months old, was when I got the offer to go to Fox and do a morning show five days a week. I went there strictly on ambition. I mean, this was my goal in life was to do a national morning show It's a dream job. Yeah. First of all, this was more than 20 years ago at Fox.
So then I, you know, I had two kids back to back. And then when my son was two months, three months old, was when I got the offer to go to Fox and do a morning show five days a week. I went there strictly on ambition. I mean, this was my goal in life was to do a national morning show It's a dream job. Yeah. First of all, this was more than 20 years ago at Fox.
That's about all I can say about it.
That's about all I can say about it.
Well, what happened immediately after I filed the lawsuit was that I started hearing from women all across the country, actually all across the world. And they all had the same eerie, similar story, which was, I did what you did. I came forward. I was penalized. I was fired. And I've never worked in my chosen profession ever again. And I was silenced. And I was like, holy crap.
Well, what happened immediately after I filed the lawsuit was that I started hearing from women all across the country, actually all across the world. And they all had the same eerie, similar story, which was, I did what you did. I came forward. I was penalized. I was fired. And I've never worked in my chosen profession ever again. And I was silenced. And I was like, holy crap.
Not only was there an epidemic of bad misconduct in the workplace still, But there was an epidemic of silencing all these people and taking them out of their careers. And I was like, I have to do something about this. So it was all of these voiceless women who were actually my inspiration. And so I rolled up my sleeves. I got to work.
Not only was there an epidemic of bad misconduct in the workplace still, But there was an epidemic of silencing all these people and taking them out of their careers. And I was like, I have to do something about this. So it was all of these voiceless women who were actually my inspiration. And so I rolled up my sleeves. I got to work.