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Gretchen Carlson

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Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

I mean, I went back to my old, you know, my same work ethic I've had my whole life that I honed in Minnesota as a little kid. And I started walking the halls of Congress because I was like, we have to change the laws.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

I mean, I went back to my old, you know, my same work ethic I've had my whole life that I honed in Minnesota as a little kid. And I started walking the halls of Congress because I was like, we have to change the laws.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

And it was kind of a perfect storm because there were so many groups of people who had been trying to change laws with nondisclosure agreements and with something called forced arbitration, which is another way we keep people silent at work. But they didn't have a well-known case to bring this into reality. Yeah, because nobody knows what the hell forced arbitration is.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

And it was kind of a perfect storm because there were so many groups of people who had been trying to change laws with nondisclosure agreements and with something called forced arbitration, which is another way we keep people silent at work. But they didn't have a well-known case to bring this into reality. Yeah, because nobody knows what the hell forced arbitration is.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

They just don't understand it. They sign it in their contract, but they have no idea what that means, which is you can't actually sue. You have to go to this secret chamber of arbitration. And that's where everyone was going all these years, which is why nobody heard about any of these cases. So I come along and I had a forced arbitration clause in my Fox contract.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

They just don't understand it. They sign it in their contract, but they have no idea what that means, which is you can't actually sue. You have to go to this secret chamber of arbitration. And that's where everyone was going all these years, which is why nobody heard about any of these cases. So I come along and I had a forced arbitration clause in my Fox contract.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

And so I was also going to face the same fate, which is why my lawyers came up with the brilliant move to sue Roger Ailes personally to try and get around my forced arbitration clause. That's why my lawsuit was not against Fox, because I would have been immediately thrown into the secret chamber of arbitration. So I start walking the halls of Congress.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

And so I was also going to face the same fate, which is why my lawyers came up with the brilliant move to sue Roger Ailes personally to try and get around my forced arbitration clause. That's why my lawsuit was not against Fox, because I would have been immediately thrown into the secret chamber of arbitration. So I start walking the halls of Congress.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

I suddenly have some sort of celebrity around this. All these people had the institutional knowledge. They'd been doing this for years. And we started creating interest in this. It took, though, five years for me to actually get enough bipartisan support to pass the first law, which was signed in March 2022.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

I suddenly have some sort of celebrity around this. All these people had the institutional knowledge. They'd been doing this for years. And we started creating interest in this. It took, though, five years for me to actually get enough bipartisan support to pass the first law, which was signed in March 2022.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

Actually, people can see behind me, right on the edges, those two things hanging behind me are my two laws. They both have photos with President Biden, but one of them actually has the pen that he used to sign the law and he handed it to me right after. There were big events at the White House because the laws I helped pass are the two biggest labor law changes in the last 100 years.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

Actually, people can see behind me, right on the edges, those two things hanging behind me are my two laws. They both have photos with President Biden, but one of them actually has the pen that he used to sign the law and he handed it to me right after. There were big events at the White House because the laws I helped pass are the two biggest labor law changes in the last 100 years.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

And what they do is, is that they don't allow you to use forced arbitration anymore or nondisclosure agreements. for sexual misconduct at work. I mean, it's huge because you can't hide it anymore. So, you know, it really became like this, again, a twist and turn in my life. I'm like, okay, now I'm an expert on passing laws. What?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

And what they do is, is that they don't allow you to use forced arbitration anymore or nondisclosure agreements. for sexual misconduct at work. I mean, it's huge because you can't hide it anymore. So, you know, it really became like this, again, a twist and turn in my life. I'm like, okay, now I'm an expert on passing laws. What?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

You know, I've gone from playing the violin to being Miss America to doing TV, and now I'm passing laws. But it's a good testament to other people who are not sure what they should do with their life or at a crossroads. You can always reinvent yourself. And the work I'm doing now will actually end up being my legacy.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

You know, I've gone from playing the violin to being Miss America to doing TV, and now I'm passing laws. But it's a good testament to other people who are not sure what they should do with their life or at a crossroads. You can always reinvent yourself. And the work I'm doing now will actually end up being my legacy.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

It's so much more important than what I did as a journalist, even though I'm still doing that today too. But the work I'm doing now is just going to be much more profound.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

It's so much more important than what I did as a journalist, even though I'm still doing that today too. But the work I'm doing now is just going to be much more profound.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

We still have a lot of work to do, right? As we've been talking about, it's hard to solve this. We decided that we would try to get these laws passed because... That forces change. And then eventually you hope that that changes culture. But as an organization, we believe in not silencing anyone at work.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Gretchen Carlson: The Journalist Who Defied Fox News and Exposed Workplace Abuse | E110

We still have a lot of work to do, right? As we've been talking about, it's hard to solve this. We decided that we would try to get these laws passed because... That forces change. And then eventually you hope that that changes culture. But as an organization, we believe in not silencing anyone at work.