Guy Winch

It's awesome.

Like, tea is served kind of situation.

So first of all, it's a win-win because the less stress and burnt out your workforce is, the more engaged they are, the more loyal and the more productive.

And therefore, they will stay longer.

You have less retraining, rehiring, costs, you know, and all of those things work in your benefit, right?

And so you want to be smart about it.

Again, our instinct is to think if you just keep going, like overworking, if you just, you know –

There's research, for example, that shows that when employers or managers are looking at two people who do the same task and end with the exact same product, and one of them stayed 10 hours to do it and the other did it in the eight hours allotted, they will evaluate the person who needed 10 hours as a better employee because they put in the work.

They're less efficient.

So, you know, they're not a better employee.

So to actually understand that like overworking is not helping.

It's helping them get burnt out if that's what you want to do.

That's terrific.

But it's not really, really helping them.

Putting boundaries around the workday, encouraging breaks within the workday.

There are companies, for example, whose screens go dark every 55 minutes.

It's useful.

Now the employees got really annoyed.

I was in the middle of something.

Like, you're not embracing the idea of take the five minutes, don't just sit there frustrated and reboot, you know, that kind of thing.