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Guyon Espiner

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Appearances Over Time

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The Agency
Arranging the Truth

like, what, a friendly New Zealander who just happens to offer them an introduction to an American missile guidance expert?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Yeah, I suppose it's always theoretically possible that we are the victims of an elaborate influence operation run by anyone from the SIS to the GRU.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

This is the wilderness of mirrors, after all.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

But we're as confident as we can reasonably be in this story.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

And your family background, John, and your knowledge of Kit Bennett's and his work, that goes a long way too, right?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

And this second source, it's backed up pretty much everything until now.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Yeah, Kit Bennett has told us that money was not a factor in the relationship with Vladimir.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Even when it came to the shopping list we told you about, that Vladimir was only covering his expenses rather than compensating him for the risks he was starting to run by bringing in sensitive material.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

They might get on well, but not well enough to be going out of your way to get into danger.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

I mean, you need a real motive for that.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Like the sheepskin coats.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

He says they sold quite a few of them, but never kept a cent.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

And if you're quietly thinking he might have held on to the money and kept quiet about it for 40 years, that's highly unlikely for another reason that is also confirmed by the second source.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

All the meetings with Vladimir were recorded.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

What sort of kit are you talking about?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Like something hidden in a room?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

So you weren't wearing a wire?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

OK, so you're thinking that it's more likely, Kit Bennett has told Vladimir, that he can get access to this weapons expert for money.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

And stealing the tech.