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Guyon Espiner

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753 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Now the aim here is to tie up resources and spread uncertainty inside a system that became increasingly reliant on stealing tech to try to keep up.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

So it really fits that when Kit Bennett is talking to his Soviet contact, that they would have to take it seriously.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

It's worked for them in the past, so they do know it's feasible.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

People in the West will exchange secrets for money.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Now, in the next episode, we'll look at how one American at the heart of the CIA's Soviet program was on the Soviet payroll from 1985, passing secret information to the KGB.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

For now, let's remember that while we have had a second source until this point, from here on, we are having to take the word of Kit Bennett's

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

We have every reason to think he's telling it straight.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

There may be slight errors around memory, as you'd expect, but this idea of money being part of the equation, it really does seem to make sense here.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

In any case, as he comes to the end of his involvement in the operation, Kit Bennett brings in a new man to take over.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

He tells Vladimir this guy can give him better information about the technical aspects of combat aircraft.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

We'll come back to what happened to Vladimir.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

But in the meantime, it's important for Kit Bennett and the CIA man, his close friend that he's never met before, to push the story on to the next level.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

But of course they might not make the first meet because something's gone seriously wrong and they've been picked up or even replaced by someone from the other side.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Even then, this prolonged dance with Vladimir and the other operations he was running was clearly beginning to take a toll on Kit Bennett and his own relationships, particularly with his wife.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

What does it do psychologically to be playing a double game like that?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

So you can treat it a little bit like a sport.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Like you go on the rugby field, you're playing this guy.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

And you know it's kind of a game.

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

Is that how you compartmentalise it in your head?

The Agency
Arranging the Truth

I wonder.