Hal Puthoff

Yes, that was our personal aspect.

Yes, that was our personal aspect.

Yes, that was our personal aspect.

And that's reasonable to think that way. And so in this case where we got permission to publish something. Since we're engineers, Russell Targ, my colleague, and I are engineers and physicists, we wrote it up for the proceedings of the IEEE, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. This is an engineering journal where we had published technical papers.

And that's reasonable to think that way. And so in this case where we got permission to publish something. Since we're engineers, Russell Targ, my colleague, and I are engineers and physicists, we wrote it up for the proceedings of the IEEE, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. This is an engineering journal where we had published technical papers.

And that's reasonable to think that way. And so in this case where we got permission to publish something. Since we're engineers, Russell Targ, my colleague, and I are engineers and physicists, we wrote it up for the proceedings of the IEEE, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. This is an engineering journal where we had published technical papers.

So I said, well, we have a better chance there. Sent it off to them. The editor was head of communications at Bell Labs. And he comes back and says, well, I don't know. And we said, why, are you getting bad reviews? And he says, well, actually, I'm getting good reviews.

So I said, well, we have a better chance there. Sent it off to them. The editor was head of communications at Bell Labs. And he comes back and says, well, I don't know. And we said, why, are you getting bad reviews? And he says, well, actually, I'm getting good reviews.

So I said, well, we have a better chance there. Sent it off to them. The editor was head of communications at Bell Labs. And he comes back and says, well, I don't know. And we said, why, are you getting bad reviews? And he says, well, actually, I'm getting good reviews.

But one really heavy hitter just gave me a one-sentence review saying, this is the kind of thing I wouldn't believe in even if it were true. What does that mean? So anyway, we said, look, I understand your problem. Look, let us come and present this stuff to your engineers. If they throw tomatoes, okay, don't publish our paper. But if they like it, then publish it.

But one really heavy hitter just gave me a one-sentence review saying, this is the kind of thing I wouldn't believe in even if it were true. What does that mean? So anyway, we said, look, I understand your problem. Look, let us come and present this stuff to your engineers. If they throw tomatoes, okay, don't publish our paper. But if they like it, then publish it.

But one really heavy hitter just gave me a one-sentence review saying, this is the kind of thing I wouldn't believe in even if it were true. What does that mean? So anyway, we said, look, I understand your problem. Look, let us come and present this stuff to your engineers. If they throw tomatoes, okay, don't publish our paper. But if they like it, then publish it.

So we went to Bell Labs, presented our data. The engineers were all excited, trying to figure out what the mechanism could be and so on. So we figured we were home free. So then we pull out our trump card, as always, which is, okay, look. Do your own experiments at Bell Labs. Pick people from your engineers. Pick people from your offices to make up lists of targets.

So we went to Bell Labs, presented our data. The engineers were all excited, trying to figure out what the mechanism could be and so on. So we figured we were home free. So then we pull out our trump card, as always, which is, okay, look. Do your own experiments at Bell Labs. Pick people from your engineers. Pick people from your offices to make up lists of targets.

So we went to Bell Labs, presented our data. The engineers were all excited, trying to figure out what the mechanism could be and so on. So we figured we were home free. So then we pull out our trump card, as always, which is, okay, look. Do your own experiments at Bell Labs. Pick people from your engineers. Pick people from your offices to make up lists of targets.

Pick people here to be your blind match group to see if they can match them up. And if you get results like we got, then publish it. If you don't, don't, he said. Okay, that's fair. So it turns out he did the whole thing, got the same kind of results we got. Our paper got published, 1976 Proceedings of the IEEE.

Pick people here to be your blind match group to see if they can match them up. And if you get results like we got, then publish it. If you don't, don't, he said. Okay, that's fair. So it turns out he did the whole thing, got the same kind of results we got. Our paper got published, 1976 Proceedings of the IEEE.

Pick people here to be your blind match group to see if they can match them up. And if you get results like we got, then publish it. If you don't, don't, he said. Okay, that's fair. So it turns out he did the whole thing, got the same kind of results we got. Our paper got published, 1976 Proceedings of the IEEE.

And so that suddenly got other people saying, okay, well, maybe there really is something to this. So it turns out that... For those who follow the field know that Robert John and Brenda Dunn, Robert John was head of engineering at Princeton. He had a student who wanted to do these kind of experiments, and he thought it was nonsense. But they came out and heard our briefing, and he went back.

And so that suddenly got other people saying, okay, well, maybe there really is something to this. So it turns out that... For those who follow the field know that Robert John and Brenda Dunn, Robert John was head of engineering at Princeton. He had a student who wanted to do these kind of experiments, and he thought it was nonsense. But they came out and heard our briefing, and he went back.