Hal Puthoff

I mean, it is hot and there are a lot of really powerful people behind it. But you've got the resistance buried. I mean, there are people within the intelligence community and the DOD who do think we need more openness, they see the same issues I see, that we're not making much progress because everything is so compartmentalized. So it's an ongoing thing.

Yes. So it's got to be done correctly. How would one do that? Well, this write-up that Schumer and Rounds and some other people, Gillibrand and Rubio, put together said, okay, we're going to have to lay everything out on the table at a highly classified area.

Yes. So it's got to be done correctly. How would one do that? Well, this write-up that Schumer and Rounds and some other people, Gillibrand and Rubio, put together said, okay, we're going to have to lay everything out on the table at a highly classified area.

Yes. So it's got to be done correctly. How would one do that? Well, this write-up that Schumer and Rounds and some other people, Gillibrand and Rubio, put together said, okay, we're going to have to lay everything out on the table at a highly classified area.

We're going to have to sort our way through of what can be released that doesn't take the chance of giving our potential adversaries data they need to leap ahead of us. But nonetheless, we've got to have more collaboration so that we can move ahead faster.

We're going to have to sort our way through of what can be released that doesn't take the chance of giving our potential adversaries data they need to leap ahead of us. But nonetheless, we've got to have more collaboration so that we can move ahead faster.

We're going to have to sort our way through of what can be released that doesn't take the chance of giving our potential adversaries data they need to leap ahead of us. But nonetheless, we've got to have more collaboration so that we can move ahead faster.

So that's the job of, at least in that document, of a nine-person panel to figure out, okay, what could be released without jeopardizing our national security so much, but nonetheless accelerating the kind of collaboration we need to make headway faster.

So that's the job of, at least in that document, of a nine-person panel to figure out, okay, what could be released without jeopardizing our national security so much, but nonetheless accelerating the kind of collaboration we need to make headway faster.

So that's the job of, at least in that document, of a nine-person panel to figure out, okay, what could be released without jeopardizing our national security so much, but nonetheless accelerating the kind of collaboration we need to make headway faster.

What you've just described is what I think has to happen. I mean, because you have whistleblowers like Dave Grush coming forward, and he basically says we've got craft, we've got bodies, we've got aerospace corporations working on this behind the scenes. But in the end, that doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't really solve the problem.

What you've just described is what I think has to happen. I mean, because you have whistleblowers like Dave Grush coming forward, and he basically says we've got craft, we've got bodies, we've got aerospace corporations working on this behind the scenes. But in the end, that doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't really solve the problem.

What you've just described is what I think has to happen. I mean, because you have whistleblowers like Dave Grush coming forward, and he basically says we've got craft, we've got bodies, we've got aerospace corporations working on this behind the scenes. But in the end, that doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't really solve the problem.

And you have people come forward and said, look, I can give you the address of where the stuff is stored so we can take this out of the discussion area and really prove something. But it would take, I think, a presidential executive order or... something to light a fire under that process to have it happen. But that's all possible. It's all possible.

And you have people come forward and said, look, I can give you the address of where the stuff is stored so we can take this out of the discussion area and really prove something. But it would take, I think, a presidential executive order or... something to light a fire under that process to have it happen. But that's all possible. It's all possible.

And you have people come forward and said, look, I can give you the address of where the stuff is stored so we can take this out of the discussion area and really prove something. But it would take, I think, a presidential executive order or... something to light a fire under that process to have it happen. But that's all possible. It's all possible.

And when I compare, you know, where are we today as compared to where we were in 2004 or whenever that... other disclosure discussion took place at that time there was a lot of stigma there was no proof you could kind of put your hands on There was, in fact, purposely designed misinformation by the intelligence community.

And when I compare, you know, where are we today as compared to where we were in 2004 or whenever that... other disclosure discussion took place at that time there was a lot of stigma there was no proof you could kind of put your hands on There was, in fact, purposely designed misinformation by the intelligence community.

And when I compare, you know, where are we today as compared to where we were in 2004 or whenever that... other disclosure discussion took place at that time there was a lot of stigma there was no proof you could kind of put your hands on There was, in fact, purposely designed misinformation by the intelligence community.

So-called Robertson panel went out of their way to say this is all nonsense. So that was something you're dealing with. So there you realize, well, if I come forward and say there's really something to this, I'm really blasting through quite a brick wall here. But in the intervening decades, I think we've gotten to a point where The reasons we had to not do it then are no longer applicable.