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And when I started the podcast, by episode eight, I had 20 volunteers in a Slack channel who worked for free for me and was a precursor of my social media agency now, Yap Media.

And so I just am very good at kind of motivating and recruiting people to help me.

And I didn't need outside motivation.

My motivation was motivating my fans and my team.

And my motivation came from that.

Mm-hmm.

And by the way, I literally, even two years into it, I thought you couldn't make money from podcasting.

Now my show has made $1.4 million in sponsorship, just my show alone this year, you know?

And when I first started two years into it, I literally would tell people, oh, you can't, this is just a passion project.

This is just a hobby.

You can't make money from podcasting.

And I truly believed that.

So I didn't even think it was possible

to make money with your podcast because there wasn't a lot of examples.

There wasn't like people like you and me back then.

It was kind of like there's only 10 people who make money off this.

And for everybody else, it's a hobby is what I believed.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, you know what?