Haley Sacks

So it's the same thing where you have to have that brownie with spinach in it.

I think for me, I have a mental illness around pop culture that even when I was little, I was like so dyslexic, but I could read Us Weekly cover to cover.

So it's like since I was little, I've had this encyclopedic knowledge of pop culture and I've loved it.

But money was something that I never really understood and didn't think it was for me.

But I thought, OK, if everyone loves celebrities, they love memes, they love like Internet funny.

But, you know, people don't really love talking about money.

So if you blend the two, what would happen?

Oof, I remember this.

Yeah.

That is.

These are all the archetypes.

Yeah, you don't want – I don't think you want the archetype of the – because like how Wall Street is presented in media, you're right, is so aggressive.

Yeah.

Well, I think it's sort of the same way with the book called The New Rules of Building Wealth.

We talked about how like the system was designed by rich people.

But if you know how it works and you understand what they're doing and how they're doing it, you can apply it to your own life.

And so it's the same thing with celebrities that it's like, yeah, you might not have as much money as Beyonce and Jay-Z.

But like, let's talk about why they got a mortgage, even though they don't necessarily need one, because rich people love to leverage debt.

Right.

Or let's talk about how they have renegotiated their prenup three times and how important it is to talk to your partner about money and, like, make sure that, you know, things are equitable in your relationship.