Haley Sacks

So that's like why rich people save so much on taxes because the tax code was written by the people that it's protecting.

And so, but that doesn't mean that you have to be a billionaire

to benefit.

It just means that you have to understand the rules of the game so that you can win at it.

And if you don't, then you're never going to get ahead because the system is out to get you.

It is a predatory financial system.

At every turn, they want you to get into debt.

They want you to set up accounts that have high fees.

They want you, like there's just so much coming at you every day that is nefarious and trying to take your money.

And so you need to wise up and

Really commit to your financial literacy so that you can win regardless of that.

I mean, I've learned so much from Damon, too.

I love his work around money.

And I think for me, the room where things really changed around me with money was...

As I became more successful, rooms where I was with people who were not as successful and learning how to... Because when you are chasing financial success, that's something that you can be really focused on.

But I firmly believe that the best relationships are not with people that have the same paycheck as you.

It's just people that you actually...

connect with and vibe with and have the same values.

And that might not like mean that you have the same amount of money, but like money can be something that really like alienates people and makes them feel weird.

And if you are, if you move with it in a way that feels like you're holding on too tight or you're nickel and diming people or you're tacky or you're not respectful of where someone else is at financially, it can really degrade your relationships.