Haley
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Okay.
Yeah.
The potential of, it's almost like when you're dating, you think of the potential of what someone, instead of taking them, I think at face value.
So that's a good reminder is just to kind of meet her where she's at.
And I guess just, it'd be helpful to have your advice when she calls me because she knows, I think in herself, that's what hurts my heart is like, she's even told me, I don't feel like myself.
I don't know the last time I was happy.
Like
I can't live this way.
And then, so when you share those things where it's almost like, I know she feels trapped and I know she feels what everyone else is seeing, but she's like you said, she's just not at that place where she has.
Yeah.
No, I know.
Yeah.
And I will say, I think I do try to have a positive look when I'm speaking with her.
I do give her the honest truth, but I also try to have that fair balance.
Yeah.
And I mean, I've tried, like, I even like, let me help you find a therapist.
I'll send her podcasts.
I'll send her books.
But yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's fair.