Hamish Macdonald

But I'm at the Imperfect's live.

Yeah.

Anyway, well, thank you for having me.

Then and again now.

Okay, let's slow down.

GQ?

I think I was, I think it was a subcategory.

Just, I feel like given facts are so important.

I don't think I was the GQ man.

I think they have like media, sport, you know.

Well, I mean, it's just basically an exploration of the –

Reality that I think we're all confronting right now that it's becoming increasingly hard to discern what a fact is.

You know, like it is not a simple question to answer anymore what a fact is because there are contested facts.

People are fighting over facts.

We all know, and I'm sure every person listening to this will think of an experience recently where either they themselves or someone around them will say, oh, I've seen this thing.

I don't know if it's real.

I think there was a point in time where we imagined like a post-truth future, a future in which none of us really knew what was real and what was fake.

And I think probably the reality that we're all experiencing is that we're kind of there now.

We're well and truly into that space and we're all probably being tricked, duped at certain points in time.

If we're not...