Hamish Macdonald

They're more easily manipulated probably.

And maybe

You know, the rapid nature of it, I guess, is what makes it more difficult to sit with it and give it time to think about whether that thing was correct or not.

Because by tomorrow, you'll have probably forgotten about that video because there'll be some other video that we're then trying to pass through and connect with.

I thought it was really interesting what you said before about climate and your worry about that.

Someone very close to me in my life

that I just always think of as a supremely kind of confident, competent, non-frazzlable figure, just out of nowhere recently said to me, oh, I just find myself really worrying quite a lot at the moment.

about my children and the climate and what they're going to be living.

And it, it totally sideswiped me that this person even had that thought.

Uh, so to me, um, that was a bit of a wake up call as to like what people are just kind of sitting with and grappling with at the moment.

And I, I'm just very conscious that.

The media, information, journalism is maybe not doing enough to like hear and listen to that.

Maybe because we don't have the answers.

Isn't that good stuff?

Humans are pretty resilient as well.

And if you think back, not that long ago, the Cuban Missile Crisis might have been happening or Chernobyl was happening.

And people really genuinely thought that

This might be the end of the world at various times.

Or this could be World War III.

And it may be, it may not be, but humans have a remarkable capacity to move through those things.