Hamish Macdonald

But as a human race, we're experimenting with

uh the written word on page which we've been doing now for a few hundred years uh now that's all digital and it happens you know if any of you pick up your phone how many different apps and web browser pages would you have in there that you would toggle between in the course of a couple of hours

Because –

In part, it's because if I have to pick up a physical book, I have to put the phone down.

I have to walk away from my laptop.

I like reading a book lying down on a couch or sort of sitting down on a couch and I can leave my phone over there for half an hour, whatever it is, and not pick it up.

Like if I read an article on my phone, I'll be checking my messages while I'm doing it.

I'll be dipping into my email.

I'll reach a boring bit.

But like a Kindle account.

Yeah, look, I don't own a Kindle, so that's the reason I don't own it.

Yeah, I don't have a sort of fat wire against Kindles.

Yep.

Yet.

Yes.

But...

you know, through work, I'm always asked, being asked to write, read books before doing the interview with someone.

And I would say, you know, most of the time now the publishers will send you a PDF version of the book and I might have to do five of those a week.

And it's just, it's too much digital consumption for my brain.

Like I just, I need that, I need that break.