Hank Green

Part of the company.

So we've got art, and then we've got production, and then we've got editorial.

You were the CEO.

I think the last time you were on the show, you were the CEO.

Then you sort of like kicked yourself out of that chair and into more of a nebulous role of Hank Green.

Do you know the specifics of that story?

No, it's not.

I got kicked off of that by getting cancer and then getting in cancer treatment.

And I was like, somebody's gonna have to be the CEO while I do this.

So first for like a couple of weeks, my brother took over, which is desperately not something he wanted to do, but he did a great job.

And then eventually our COO moved into that position.

And I was like very on the fence at first about whether I would come back in.

And then I like saw how great Julie was doing.

And also how much I enjoyed not doing the work.

Making your first deputy your boss is the greatest move of all time.

That's what you did at The Verge.

It's like I can't recommend it enough.

Everyone should do it at least once.

You know what I mean?

Like go have that experience.