Hank Green

Yeah.

Yeah, that company had a structure.

I'm going to ask you about how you make decisions.

This is going to be great.

You recently changed the ownership structure of that company.

So you and John founded it.

You owned 100% of it.

Notably, you didn't take any investment.

I think there was a YouTube grant somewhere along the way.

There was an early YouTube grant, yeah.

In that period where YouTube was like, does anyone want to make videos?

Here's some money.

Yeah, and honestly –

I think that that program is considered a failure internally, but I think that it was extremely successful if you only look at the money they gave to YouTubers.

If you look at the money that they gave to, like, media companies, it was a very bad investment.

But if you only look at, like, Rhett and Link and Phil DeFranco and the Fine Brothers and Hank and John, there's just, like, it turns out there was a lot of good stuff came out of that.

I'm curious about that, too.

I agree with you, by the way.

And Vox Media received some of that money.

Yeah.