Hannah Chin

Yes, totally.

And there's actually one more aspect of Shabnam's question that I want to get into, Emily.

This idea that she's noticing more lizards and frogs.

Because Mara and Daniel told me just because she's seeing them more often doesn't necessarily mean there's a population increase, that there's more of them.

Okay, but how come we don't know?

Because there's still a big gap in local scientists' data.

And that's because long-term studies monitoring the populations of these species in metro Atlanta really just don't exist.

So Mara is trying to change that through community science.

And Emily, anyone in the Metro Atlanta area can apply to be a community scientist in this MAMP program.

Mara and her colleagues will train them to identify each species in the field and document their findings.

And then volunteers have to take a series of quizzes to basically show that they retained all that information.

This is like school.

I mean, Emily, you love school.

I do.

It's true.

Anyway, there is an online sign-up form for trainings and program news.

We'll link to it in the show notes.

And today we're going to talk about what some people consider the third rail of climate change, the kids question.

And to be clear, this decision is not just limited to parents.

True.