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She learned each fact in the most personal, direct way. And making sense of those facts, understanding how they all fit together, for her, was urgent.

She learned each fact in the most personal, direct way. And making sense of those facts, understanding how they all fit together, for her, was urgent.

She learned each fact in the most personal, direct way. And making sense of those facts, understanding how they all fit together, for her, was urgent.

Nadia Raymond is an editor on our show. Interpreting for this story by Anianci Diaz-Cortez.

Nadia Raymond is an editor on our show. Interpreting for this story by Anianci Diaz-Cortez.

Nadia Raymond is an editor on our show. Interpreting for this story by Anianci Diaz-Cortez.

Our program was produced today by Valerie Kipnis. Our executive editor, Emanuel Berry, edited the show.

Our program was produced today by Valerie Kipnis. Our executive editor, Emanuel Berry, edited the show.

Our program was produced today by Valerie Kipnis. Our executive editor, Emanuel Berry, edited the show.

The people who put together today's program include Fia Benen, Mike Kamate, Aviva de Kornfeld, Emanuel Jochi, Angela Gervasi, Cassie Howley, Seth Lind, Tobin Lo, Catherine Raimundo, Stone Nelson, Ryan Remery, Marisa Robertson-Textor, Alyssa Shipp, Lily Sullivan, Christopher Swatala, Lara Starczewski, Nancy Updike, James Williamson, and Diane Wu. Our managing editor is Sara Abdurrahman.

The people who put together today's program include Fia Benen, Mike Kamate, Aviva de Kornfeld, Emanuel Jochi, Angela Gervasi, Cassie Howley, Seth Lind, Tobin Lo, Catherine Raimundo, Stone Nelson, Ryan Remery, Marisa Robertson-Textor, Alyssa Shipp, Lily Sullivan, Christopher Swatala, Lara Starczewski, Nancy Updike, James Williamson, and Diane Wu. Our managing editor is Sara Abdurrahman.

The people who put together today's program include Fia Benen, Mike Kamate, Aviva de Kornfeld, Emanuel Jochi, Angela Gervasi, Cassie Howley, Seth Lind, Tobin Lo, Catherine Raimundo, Stone Nelson, Ryan Remery, Marisa Robertson-Textor, Alyssa Shipp, Lily Sullivan, Christopher Swatala, Lara Starczewski, Nancy Updike, James Williamson, and Diane Wu. Our managing editor is Sara Abdurrahman.

Our senior editor is David Kestenbaum. Our executive producer is Ira Glass. Special thanks today to Yael Evan Orr, Jeremy Ashkenaz, Aaron Reiklin Melnick, Mustafa Kishti, Stephen Yell Lair, Julie Turkowitz, Carolina Arias-Ipiz, Dara Lind, Yosbel Gonzalez-Meijas, Galia Waltz, Breaking the Silence, and The Chronicle for Higher Education. Casting help from Sabrina Hyman.

Our senior editor is David Kestenbaum. Our executive producer is Ira Glass. Special thanks today to Yael Evan Orr, Jeremy Ashkenaz, Aaron Reiklin Melnick, Mustafa Kishti, Stephen Yell Lair, Julie Turkowitz, Carolina Arias-Ipiz, Dara Lind, Yosbel Gonzalez-Meijas, Galia Waltz, Breaking the Silence, and The Chronicle for Higher Education. Casting help from Sabrina Hyman.

Our senior editor is David Kestenbaum. Our executive producer is Ira Glass. Special thanks today to Yael Evan Orr, Jeremy Ashkenaz, Aaron Reiklin Melnick, Mustafa Kishti, Stephen Yell Lair, Julie Turkowitz, Carolina Arias-Ipiz, Dara Lind, Yosbel Gonzalez-Meijas, Galia Waltz, Breaking the Silence, and The Chronicle for Higher Education. Casting help from Sabrina Hyman.

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To hear it and get all the other perks, and most importantly, help us keep making the show, go to thisamericanlife.org slash lifepartners. That link is also in the show notes. Thanks, as always, to my boss, Ira Glass. He went to a Hugh Grant convention this year. Everyone dressed up. Four weddings and a funeral, Hugh. Notting Hill, Hugh. Love Actually, Hugh.