Hannah Porter

This is the DSPN.

DSPN, we are talking women's rugby.

Hannah Porter joining us from New Zealand Rugby.

Hannah, what do the Black Ferns need to be able to do to beat England?

You mentioned the professional game up there.

We've got Opikistone, which we're going to talk about in a sec.

I've heard some conflicting reports about the standard of their game up there.

And yes, there is a lot more of it.

And that's obviously very beneficial.

And we see a lot of the Black Ferns going up there to play.

But where would you place it in terms of quality as opposed to what our players are getting back here?

People saying women's rugby is in a really good spot right now.

It's flying.

A lot of other people saying that English women's rugby is in a really good spot right now and it's really flying.

Are those two things mutually exclusive?

Where do you land on this?

Because obviously its biggest market, its biggest player base, and most successful international team, yeah, it's going great.

Does that mean it's good for everyone else though?

Yeah, glad you brought that up.

Obviously, it's the first time this has ever happened.