Hannah Rosen

To help me with that is Ali Breland, an Atlantic staff writer who writes about the internet, politics, and technology. Hey, Ali.

To help me with that is Ali Breland, an Atlantic staff writer who writes about the internet, politics, and technology. Hey, Ali.

To help me with that is Ali Breland, an Atlantic staff writer who writes about the internet, politics, and technology. Hey, Ali.

So, Ali, this fracture in the MAGA alliance seemed to start around Christmas when Trump announced a senior AI policy advisor. Who is he and how did people respond?

So, Ali, this fracture in the MAGA alliance seemed to start around Christmas when Trump announced a senior AI policy advisor. Who is he and how did people respond?

So, Ali, this fracture in the MAGA alliance seemed to start around Christmas when Trump announced a senior AI policy advisor. Who is he and how did people respond?

So these are like, this is a faction. Like these guys are becoming more and more powerful. So Trump's tech allies.

So these are like, this is a faction. Like these guys are becoming more and more powerful. So Trump's tech allies.

So these are like, this is a faction. Like these guys are becoming more and more powerful. So Trump's tech allies.

So they're on one side. And then how did the discussion around H-1B visas get going?

So they're on one side. And then how did the discussion around H-1B visas get going?

So they're on one side. And then how did the discussion around H-1B visas get going?

It's really complicated because they both have ideas like there's an optimum society, there's a right way that things should be, and then they're slightly different. So what does each side's ideal America made great again look like?

It's really complicated because they both have ideas like there's an optimum society, there's a right way that things should be, and then they're slightly different. So what does each side's ideal America made great again look like?

It's really complicated because they both have ideas like there's an optimum society, there's a right way that things should be, and then they're slightly different. So what does each side's ideal America made great again look like?

So they're less concerned about, you know, where people come from. I mean, what makes it especially complicated and charged that this came up so soon is that it came up in immigration. Trump has made controlling immigration one of his top priorities. So how did Trump himself end up weighing in on this?

So they're less concerned about, you know, where people come from. I mean, what makes it especially complicated and charged that this came up so soon is that it came up in immigration. Trump has made controlling immigration one of his top priorities. So how did Trump himself end up weighing in on this?

So they're less concerned about, you know, where people come from. I mean, what makes it especially complicated and charged that this came up so soon is that it came up in immigration. Trump has made controlling immigration one of his top priorities. So how did Trump himself end up weighing in on this?

Interesting. So then maybe the thing to explore is the nativist right. Not just Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer is, you know, a little more on the fringes. But what about someone like Stephen Miller, who will be Trump's deputy chief of staff for policy and who's credited with shaping a lot of the more draconian immigration policies in the last administration he has established?

Interesting. So then maybe the thing to explore is the nativist right. Not just Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer is, you know, a little more on the fringes. But what about someone like Stephen Miller, who will be Trump's deputy chief of staff for policy and who's credited with shaping a lot of the more draconian immigration policies in the last administration he has established?