Hannah Rosen

Interesting. So then maybe the thing to explore is the nativist right. Not just Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer is, you know, a little more on the fringes. But what about someone like Stephen Miller, who will be Trump's deputy chief of staff for policy and who's credited with shaping a lot of the more draconian immigration policies in the last administration he has established?

solid power in this administration. Have we heard from him or someone closer to power about what they think about H-1B visas?

solid power in this administration. Have we heard from him or someone closer to power about what they think about H-1B visas?

solid power in this administration. Have we heard from him or someone closer to power about what they think about H-1B visas?

Yeah, I mean, it's still early. He hasn't even taken office yet. But could you imagine a universe where then it just moves forward and we quietly make an exception for elite workers and do mass deportations for everyone else? Like, is that where immigration policy could land?

Yeah, I mean, it's still early. He hasn't even taken office yet. But could you imagine a universe where then it just moves forward and we quietly make an exception for elite workers and do mass deportations for everyone else? Like, is that where immigration policy could land?

Yeah, I mean, it's still early. He hasn't even taken office yet. But could you imagine a universe where then it just moves forward and we quietly make an exception for elite workers and do mass deportations for everyone else? Like, is that where immigration policy could land?

So if what you said is true and if the past history holds, he is going to make an exception for elite immigrant workers. What does that imply about how he might handle other economic issues?

So if what you said is true and if the past history holds, he is going to make an exception for elite immigrant workers. What does that imply about how he might handle other economic issues?

So if what you said is true and if the past history holds, he is going to make an exception for elite immigrant workers. What does that imply about how he might handle other economic issues?

So essentially, this rift that you pointed out in the MAGA world between, you know, is he going to take the side of the elites or is he going to take the side of all the workers, even if that means the nativist, right? That's a rift you can track kind of up and down various issues for the next many years just to see, okay, whose side does he take on a lot of these issues?

So essentially, this rift that you pointed out in the MAGA world between, you know, is he going to take the side of the elites or is he going to take the side of all the workers, even if that means the nativist, right? That's a rift you can track kind of up and down various issues for the next many years just to see, okay, whose side does he take on a lot of these issues?

So essentially, this rift that you pointed out in the MAGA world between, you know, is he going to take the side of the elites or is he going to take the side of all the workers, even if that means the nativist, right? That's a rift you can track kind of up and down various issues for the next many years just to see, okay, whose side does he take on a lot of these issues?

And Tucker Carlson takes that issue because it's a betrayal of the American worker.

And Tucker Carlson takes that issue because it's a betrayal of the American worker.

And Tucker Carlson takes that issue because it's a betrayal of the American worker.

Interesting. So this is actually this is the central fissure of the Trump administration.

Interesting. So this is actually this is the central fissure of the Trump administration.

Interesting. So this is actually this is the central fissure of the Trump administration.

Well, Ali, thank you for pointing out this line to us. We'll be watching it for the next four years, and thank you for joining me.