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Yeah, I had a conversation with Representative Richie Torres of New York right after the election who talked about how a lot of the immigrants in his neighborhood had a surprising amount of anti-untocumented immigrant sentiment. And it made me wonder about... I don't even know how to define this, but sense of chaos, like just a feeling of things not being in control.

It's sort of the way people feel about crime. There just seems to be a sense that things have run away and you can't get ahead. It's a vague thing, but it is related to there's just so much out of control and I need someone to stop it.

It's sort of the way people feel about crime. There just seems to be a sense that things have run away and you can't get ahead. It's a vague thing, but it is related to there's just so much out of control and I need someone to stop it.

It's sort of the way people feel about crime. There just seems to be a sense that things have run away and you can't get ahead. It's a vague thing, but it is related to there's just so much out of control and I need someone to stop it.

Yeah. So maybe the place to end is this. Have you talked to anyone or done any thinking about how in a situation like this you close the gap? Because we as journalists, it's frustrating to us to know that there is an answer. You know, there's an answer the research has provided. There are truths and facts. And separate from that, there is a perception.

Yeah. So maybe the place to end is this. Have you talked to anyone or done any thinking about how in a situation like this you close the gap? Because we as journalists, it's frustrating to us to know that there is an answer. You know, there's an answer the research has provided. There are truths and facts. And separate from that, there is a perception.

Yeah. So maybe the place to end is this. Have you talked to anyone or done any thinking about how in a situation like this you close the gap? Because we as journalists, it's frustrating to us to know that there is an answer. You know, there's an answer the research has provided. There are truths and facts. And separate from that, there is a perception.

So have you thought of or seen anybody talk interestingly about how you bridge a gap like that where people feel one way that is discordant with what the reality is?

So have you thought of or seen anybody talk interestingly about how you bridge a gap like that where people feel one way that is discordant with what the reality is?

So have you thought of or seen anybody talk interestingly about how you bridge a gap like that where people feel one way that is discordant with what the reality is?

Well, that was really helpful. Roger, thank you so much for joining me today and talking about this.

Well, that was really helpful. Roger, thank you so much for joining me today and talking about this.

Well, that was really helpful. Roger, thank you so much for joining me today and talking about this.

This episode was produced by Kevin Townsend and edited by Claudina Bade, Rob Smirciak engineered, and Sarah Kralewski fact-checked. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. Many thanks to Ali Breland and Roger Karma for joining me.

This episode was produced by Kevin Townsend and edited by Claudina Bade, Rob Smirciak engineered, and Sarah Kralewski fact-checked. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. Many thanks to Ali Breland and Roger Karma for joining me.

This episode was produced by Kevin Townsend and edited by Claudina Bade, Rob Smirciak engineered, and Sarah Kralewski fact-checked. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. Many thanks to Ali Breland and Roger Karma for joining me.

If you'd like to hear Roger go even deeper on the research into the economic impact of immigration, you can hear him on another Atlantic podcast called Good on Paper. It's hosted by staff writer Jerusalem Dempsis, and that episode is linked in the show notes. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

If you'd like to hear Roger go even deeper on the research into the economic impact of immigration, you can hear him on another Atlantic podcast called Good on Paper. It's hosted by staff writer Jerusalem Dempsis, and that episode is linked in the show notes. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

If you'd like to hear Roger go even deeper on the research into the economic impact of immigration, you can hear him on another Atlantic podcast called Good on Paper. It's hosted by staff writer Jerusalem Dempsis, and that episode is linked in the show notes. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

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