Hannah Rosen

Like, we've seen videos of ICE agents breaking a car window, shoving a city councilman.

How do you think the administration response is affecting how ICE officers are behaving on the streets?

Like, does it embolden them?

Are they worried?

Like, what's your sense of that?

OK, so we spoke to an attorney who told us that despite the federal government saying we have your back, it's not actually true.

States can prosecute ICE officers or they have some tools to do that.

What do you think the rank and file ICE officers believe?

Do you think they believe they're immune?

Do they know this?

So I guess there's two things here.

It's definitely possible, but maybe it hasn't happened in recent history.

So it's not prime in their minds.

The bigger thing, though, is the things that you're describing.

Like me as an average citizen, I look at ICE.

I think, oh, ICE had a mandate to find undocumented immigrants.

What you and I are talking about here is ICE shot an American citizen or ICE going after an American citizen.

That is very, very, very different.

Do you see it as different?

Like, do you see ICE as evolving into a very different role than what it initially started as or what one would think ICE is?