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Hannah Rosen

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Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Well, I'm talking to certain colleagues, including and especially Shane, who's sitting next to me. Shane, who's been covering the intelligence community for a long while. And, you know, I'm talking to him from the beginning about this because I do need – some reverb, some reaction to it, because I've never seen this kind of thing or heard of something like this happening.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Well, I'm talking to certain colleagues, including and especially Shane, who's sitting next to me. Shane, who's been covering the intelligence community for a long while. And, you know, I'm talking to him from the beginning about this because I do need – some reverb, some reaction to it, because I've never seen this kind of thing or heard of something like this happening.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

But when I first showed him just the initial foray, you know, that we're having a group, Shane was like, no, no. No? Somebody's trying to, this is an operation. I don't know who it is. I don't know why they're doing it, but this is an op. This is a disinformation operation because these guys don't do that anymore.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

But when I first showed him just the initial foray, you know, that we're having a group, Shane was like, no, no. No? Somebody's trying to, this is an operation. I don't know who it is. I don't know why they're doing it, but this is an op. This is a disinformation operation because these guys don't do that anymore.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

But when I first showed him just the initial foray, you know, that we're having a group, Shane was like, no, no. No? Somebody's trying to, this is an operation. I don't know who it is. I don't know why they're doing it, but this is an op. This is a disinformation operation because these guys don't do that anymore.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Most of the relevant ones, the heads of intelligence agencies, obviously defense secretary and the like, they have plenty of ways to communicate with each other within a minute or two of needing to.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Most of the relevant ones, the heads of intelligence agencies, obviously defense secretary and the like, they have plenty of ways to communicate with each other within a minute or two of needing to.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Most of the relevant ones, the heads of intelligence agencies, obviously defense secretary and the like, they have plenty of ways to communicate with each other within a minute or two of needing to.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

By the way, a lot of it is just common sense. I mean, you read something and you could tell the difference between strategic information and tactical information. We should deal with the Houthis. Fine. We should do X, Y, and Z because the Houthis are a threat to commerce and American national security interests. This is what we're going to do to the Houthis in two hours is not information that –

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

By the way, a lot of it is just common sense. I mean, you read something and you could tell the difference between strategic information and tactical information. We should deal with the Houthis. Fine. We should do X, Y, and Z because the Houthis are a threat to commerce and American national security interests. This is what we're going to do to the Houthis in two hours is not information that –

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

By the way, a lot of it is just common sense. I mean, you read something and you could tell the difference between strategic information and tactical information. We should deal with the Houthis. Fine. We should do X, Y, and Z because the Houthis are a threat to commerce and American national security interests. This is what we're going to do to the Houthis in two hours is not information that –

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

The public should have. I mean, even as a reporter, I say that. And, like, I'm fascinated. I want to know how they're making decisions, why they're making decisions. I want to know after action, why things happened, why they went right, why they went wrong, and so on. But I don't want – and I've been doing this for a while, as has Shane – I don't want information before –

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

The public should have. I mean, even as a reporter, I say that. And, like, I'm fascinated. I want to know how they're making decisions, why they're making decisions. I want to know after action, why things happened, why they went right, why they went wrong, and so on. But I don't want – and I've been doing this for a while, as has Shane – I don't want information before –

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

The public should have. I mean, even as a reporter, I say that. And, like, I'm fascinated. I want to know how they're making decisions, why they're making decisions. I want to know after action, why things happened, why they went right, why they went wrong, and so on. But I don't want – and I've been doing this for a while, as has Shane – I don't want information before –

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

kinetic action before a strike of some sort that has to do with the practical aspects of that strike, information that if it got into the wrong hands could actually endanger the lives of Americans. I mean, the North Star for me and Shane and most normal people, normal reporters, is look, we don't want to endanger the lives of American personnel in the field. And that's why this was, that's why the

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

kinetic action before a strike of some sort that has to do with the practical aspects of that strike, information that if it got into the wrong hands could actually endanger the lives of Americans. I mean, the North Star for me and Shane and most normal people, normal reporters, is look, we don't want to endanger the lives of American personnel in the field. And that's why this was, that's why the

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

kinetic action before a strike of some sort that has to do with the practical aspects of that strike, information that if it got into the wrong hands could actually endanger the lives of Americans. I mean, the North Star for me and Shane and most normal people, normal reporters, is look, we don't want to endanger the lives of American personnel in the field. And that's why this was, that's why the

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

And Saturday texting, the Saturday chain was very, very different than the Friday because it got very practical.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

And Saturday texting, the Saturday chain was very, very different than the Friday because it got very practical.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

And Saturday texting, the Saturday chain was very, very different than the Friday because it got very practical.