Hannah Rosen

Okay, here's another big question. Americans are, in fact, used to cheap prices and infinite options. Is that fair to say?

Oh, it's funny you should mention dolls. So Trump did make the statement about dolls. Kids could have two instead of 30. And I am not pretending that Trump was making some kind of well-developed policy statement. No. But it is a diagnosis that people on all sides of the political spectrum have also made over the years.

Oh, it's funny you should mention dolls. So Trump did make the statement about dolls. Kids could have two instead of 30. And I am not pretending that Trump was making some kind of well-developed policy statement. No. But it is a diagnosis that people on all sides of the political spectrum have also made over the years.

Oh, it's funny you should mention dolls. So Trump did make the statement about dolls. Kids could have two instead of 30. And I am not pretending that Trump was making some kind of well-developed policy statement. No. But it is a diagnosis that people on all sides of the political spectrum have also made over the years.

So what do you think about that sentiment in the context of this tariff-heavy moment?

So what do you think about that sentiment in the context of this tariff-heavy moment?

So what do you think about that sentiment in the context of this tariff-heavy moment?

That's an excellent example. I totally see what you're saying by central plenary. I got that concept immediately. It's like shifting culture from the pulpit, as it were. But, like, why not go back to dying eggs? Like, don't you need to be forced into artificial scarcity?

That's an excellent example. I totally see what you're saying by central plenary. I got that concept immediately. It's like shifting culture from the pulpit, as it were. But, like, why not go back to dying eggs? Like, don't you need to be forced into artificial scarcity?

That's an excellent example. I totally see what you're saying by central plenary. I got that concept immediately. It's like shifting culture from the pulpit, as it were. But, like, why not go back to dying eggs? Like, don't you need to be forced into artificial scarcity?

Like, is there a universe in which higher tariffs do have a potential to shift consumer habits and maybe help out this addiction to cheap? Because we all know that the addiction to cheap encourages bad labor practices and pollution all over the world. So it is a big problem that's hard to shift.

Like, is there a universe in which higher tariffs do have a potential to shift consumer habits and maybe help out this addiction to cheap? Because we all know that the addiction to cheap encourages bad labor practices and pollution all over the world. So it is a big problem that's hard to shift.

Like, is there a universe in which higher tariffs do have a potential to shift consumer habits and maybe help out this addiction to cheap? Because we all know that the addiction to cheap encourages bad labor practices and pollution all over the world. So it is a big problem that's hard to shift.

I see. So it's just too crude an instrument.

I see. So it's just too crude an instrument.

I see. So it's just too crude an instrument.

Right, right. So there isn't any intentionality. If you wanted to shift consumer culture, improve the environment, you would be doing it in an entirely different and more targeted way.

Right, right. So there isn't any intentionality. If you wanted to shift consumer culture, improve the environment, you would be doing it in an entirely different and more targeted way.

Right, right. So there isn't any intentionality. If you wanted to shift consumer culture, improve the environment, you would be doing it in an entirely different and more targeted way.

Right. Right. Like the very obvious example is higher gas prices, less driving, like what they do in Europe, you know. Can you see any scenario where this all unfolds in the way Trump imagines, which is short-term pain for long-term gain? No. No scenario in which like the American manufacturer, like more things are manufactured in the U.S.