Hannah Rosen

Good to be with you.

Okay, let's start with airport hell.

As we know, there's a shortage of TSA agents, and then this idea comes seemingly out of nowhere to deploy ICE at airports to help alleviate these security lines.

What did you think when you first heard this idea?

Right.

OK, so I want to split the darker and lighter interpretations because I'm sure even at the airport, there are some people who are freaked out by the presence of ICE and other people who are happy and going over and shaking their hands.

So to start with the freaked out, we did see and then this polarization shows up in social media.

So in the first days was this video of a woman at the San Francisco airport being pinned down by ICE agents while her daughter looked on.

And then later reports that TSA had shared information about this woman with ICE.

So which brings up the specter of, oh, are airports going to become like Minneapolis streets or something?

Like you're not safe anywhere.

ICE could just pop up at any place where all Americans do their business.

So what do you think of that?

OK, so the if there's anything to fear there in the long term, it's the increased data sharing between government agencies.

It's not this temporary story about ICE agents at airports.

Right.

OK, so everything you're suggesting, what I'm picking up is that this is kind of a PR campaign, a new part of a PR campaign.

And I want to get to that in a minute.

But first, I want to close this off, which is this is just because of a temporary partial government shutdown.

You know, Congress is currently negotiating.