Hans Ott

Who, um, are they getting the right amount of, um, actionable knowledge about, or, um, from, from that, from this data?

How do you measure that though?

Well, of course, we're using our own tool to collect data from our customers.

So we're using our own tool.

And so in that way, we can also play with our own features and know what we have to improve.

But other than that, it's still finding a bit that market fit and what are the features we have to focus on.

And a lot of talking with the customers and seeing what they are interested in to know what kind of insights they want to know, what kind of insights they want to send back.

And so it's still a lot of figuring out right now.

I'm not sure.

Yeah, we try to design a survey that encompasses all the right questions, like what kind of tools you use right now, what kind of CRM, would you like to see at which stage a customer is, that it automatically goes from this stage to another stage and so forth.

what they need to push their business further and to break down those boundaries between all the teams, like the customer success and the sales and so forth.

Well, I think our targets were to have like 50 paying customers.

But of course, it will be more than that that we want.

But right now, we're just focused on finding the right feature sets and finding the right customers that can support that.

Yeah, I'm very fan of Ned Friedman, the CEO from GitHub.

Besides GitHub.

I think it's...

You surprised me.

I think it's my editor right now because I've wrote a lot of code with it.

It's like PHP storm.