Harley Finkelstein

And it's also the reason why when I meet someone, they say, what do you think I should do with my life?

I often ask them, what do you do for fun?

Because often the what you do for fun question ends up turning into, I really want to be a fashion designer.

And I'm like, you should go be a fashion designer.

Even if you've never done it, you may not have the raw skills, you will learn those skills, but you seem to really care about this thing.

You're probably going to be good at it.

I look at them the same, in my view.

Usually high care comes from high intent or an elevated level of desire to succeed.

I'm trying to teach my kids that right now.

I spent a lot of... This is kind of weird, but I kind of wish I had kids pre-IPO rather than post-IPO.

Why?

I think...

Whatever success that I've had and success of things I've been involved with, they are more meaningful to me because obviously I know where I come from.

I know how hard it was.

But I also see how Lindsay, how my wife, sees my relationship with things that I've done, in particular with Shopify.

Lindsay has great...

a wonderful emotional connection it's shopify for lindsey even my wife is not just a company she remembers you know those early days she remembers those like being on top of tucker's marketplace in the byword market uh the office stunk like the buffet restaurant and and struggling this is pre pre-series a even and and i i like that i love that she knows that she knows how meaningful because she's seen the entire journey um my kids were born in the last

eight years or so.

They kind of only know our life being pretty good.

Our lives changed post IPO.