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then I think it doesn't matter if his name is Trump or Biden, whomever the incumbent is, it happens to be President Trump, his party will be disadvantaged as we head into the fall. The one thing you have working in your favor is that Democrats suck, and we have no real alternative.
then I think it doesn't matter if his name is Trump or Biden, whomever the incumbent is, it happens to be President Trump, his party will be disadvantaged as we head into the fall. The one thing you have working in your favor is that Democrats suck, and we have no real alternative.
The things we've been trying to address around the table, there's an opening if we are willing to get the substance and the purpose and the reasons right, and then you focus on the language. But an opening is there if Democrats are willing to take it.
The things we've been trying to address around the table, there's an opening if we are willing to get the substance and the purpose and the reasons right, and then you focus on the language. But an opening is there if Democrats are willing to take it.
I don't know. I hope they were able to quickly, Jesse, because I agree. There's so many great Americans who've come from that university. And I think they are becoming a little bit of a metaphor for some of the things that the Trump administration. I think largely we've had a conversation around this table and Dana has been an instigator and a leader in this regard.
I don't know. I hope they were able to quickly, Jesse, because I agree. There's so many great Americans who've come from that university. And I think they are becoming a little bit of a metaphor for some of the things that the Trump administration. I think largely we've had a conversation around this table and Dana has been an instigator and a leader in this regard.
We've talked about the cost of higher education. And, you know, even in the Biden administration, this is when they try to retire all of the all of American student debt was unconstitutional. Shouldn't have done it. They kept doing it. I would say to Democrats, you you supported that, but you don't support. Some of you did.
We've talked about the cost of higher education. And, you know, even in the Biden administration, this is when they try to retire all of the all of American student debt was unconstitutional. Shouldn't have done it. They kept doing it. I would say to Democrats, you you supported that, but you don't support. Some of you did.
You don't support when Trump is, I think, violating what the court is saying by doing some of the things he's doing. But we have to be consistent in that regard.
You don't support when Trump is, I think, violating what the court is saying by doing some of the things he's doing. But we have to be consistent in that regard.
But we shouldn't conflate the fact that we do need more engineers and plumbers and electricians in the country, that we do need to provide more routes into the employment ranks in our country by educating and training young people, for the amount of middle-aged people who may want to switch professions. But where I differ with the president, this isn't the way to do it.
But we shouldn't conflate the fact that we do need more engineers and plumbers and electricians in the country, that we do need to provide more routes into the employment ranks in our country by educating and training young people, for the amount of middle-aged people who may want to switch professions. But where I differ with the president, this isn't the way to do it.
The way to do it is to actually drill down and get very specific. The example that Kayleigh gave regarding Bill Ackman, maybe there's a reason the president of the school has not contacted Bill, but Bill makes some good points. I disagree with him on a lot of things, but I think he's a really smart guy and I think he loves his university. We are the most innovative country in the world.
The way to do it is to actually drill down and get very specific. The example that Kayleigh gave regarding Bill Ackman, maybe there's a reason the president of the school has not contacted Bill, but Bill makes some good points. I disagree with him on a lot of things, but I think he's a really smart guy and I think he loves his university. We are the most innovative country in the world.
We are the most important country in the world. We have the greatest military in the world. We have the best universities in the world. This is what provides us leverage as a nation. And I would only hope that saner minds, saner heads, because President Trump, I think, is trying to get at something good here. I just don't like the way he's doing it.
We are the most important country in the world. We have the greatest military in the world. We have the best universities in the world. This is what provides us leverage as a nation. And I would only hope that saner minds, saner heads, because President Trump, I think, is trying to get at something good here. I just don't like the way he's doing it.
There's no need to go after these universities, these top research centers like you are, because you may have a political issue. Cleaning up and making them be stronger and how they protect students on campus, be they Jewish students or any students, is something they must do. But when you take a school like Harvard, which I don't believe we have a greater.
There's no need to go after these universities, these top research centers like you are, because you may have a political issue. Cleaning up and making them be stronger and how they protect students on campus, be they Jewish students or any students, is something they must do. But when you take a school like Harvard, which I don't believe we have a greater.
And this is I went to University of Pennsylvania, University of Michigan, and I love these schools. But there's not a university asset, a college asset in the world that is more aligned with excellence than Harvard has been throughout its existence. We had to fix it and not destroy it. And I think what President Trump is doing is bordering on something not good here.
And this is I went to University of Pennsylvania, University of Michigan, and I love these schools. But there's not a university asset, a college asset in the world that is more aligned with excellence than Harvard has been throughout its existence. We had to fix it and not destroy it. And I think what President Trump is doing is bordering on something not good here.