Harrison Gardner

Yeah.

And I don't even mean, I do mean that.

I know a bit about what people are doing and I can imagine, especially the very practical things and fundraising and that kind of stuff.

But this organization doesn't exist.

You're not copying someone else's model, right?

You're kind of building this thing as you go.

I don't think anyone, people aren't good at that kind of understanding scale like that.

You said something there that I feel like I can't ignore because I'm always telling people to build their own houses.

That you hated building your own house.

Yeah, I get it.

I get it.

And I'm the same.

If I could afford to have someone else build my house for me, I would probably let someone else build my house for me.

And I'm the guy telling everyone to build their own house.

But I think it is about that necessity.

And I think that's why...

That's why anyone is doing it.

We're not doing it because it's really, really fun.

Even though I would say that for me, and I think for some people out there, there is some type two fun and satisfaction that comes from it.

But no one's doing it because that is the absolute thing they want to do that day.