Harrison Gardner

So how do we do it?

What do you need to do the work to... I know you need money.

But you need so much money that it's going to have to be led at a national level, right?

At a government level or at a companies that are as big as country kind of level.

It seems to me like, and this is probably me using the very male part of my brain that's always just trying to find solutions and not feel the problem, but immediately just trying to solve it.

It seems to me that you need money.

You need people and belief and understanding behind it.

And you need access to land as well as a few of the things that need to happen to make it possible to bring huge amounts of nature together.

back to ireland and it's kind of it's making me think of of two things that i've heard you talk about before yeah and maybe you can choose which one of these you you want to talk to but how is how is land managed in ireland sure and the other thought which is maybe in a different direction is this idea of deep adaptation when we're talking about nature being fucked

and what that means and how we respond to that.

Appreciate it.

Yeah.

Thanks for tuning in to the Tools at Hand podcast.

If there's someone that... Oh, that's something I wanted to ask you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's cool.

I mean, Ray's great.

Oh, yeah.

That's a nice idea.