Harrison Gardner

to go and glean a field and they're kind of growing their empathy, not only for how hard the work is, but also how much waste there is.

They're getting both sides of it.

They're not getting this one-sided view of how terrible is waste.

They're also saying like, well, I get why we use the machine because this is hard and it hurts and I don't want to do this every day.

That must be a really amazing experience for people.

Where else does it happen?

So the food gets called processing plant, I suppose, after a farm.

Makes sense.

And they have quotas they've got to meet and I'm sure suppliers expect to get the right amount from them and they've got to keep that all good.

So what stage does Food Cloud come in and intercept?

Every stage?

Of course, of course.

You said some statistics there comparing food waste to the aviation industry.

Can you tell me the two numbers again?

That's amazing.

It never sat right with me when it was almost a decade ago now where suddenly there was this big push, at least around my community and people I knew, that we shouldn't fly anymore because of the greenhouse emissions, which it was something we had control over.

It was something we could make a choice about, and I understand it.

But as someone who...

learned everything I know about the world by being in different countries and experiencing different cultures the idea that that was our go-to solution to stop global warming was for us just to stop traveling and stop experiencing other places really broke my heart and I and it really wasn't something that felt like the right answer to me and it's amazing like no one was talking about food waste I know you were you were but I hadn't heard about it yet and uh

It's amazing to think the things that we give up because they're, I guess, closer to our control, but all the other things we lose at the same time.