Harry Scott

alongside, so they're doing PMP as well.

So I take one class for outdoor ed and then they're doing another class in the hall doing PMP and then we swap over.

But yeah, so that's so cool that they've seen sort of outdoor education as a tool to be like, okay, let's help these kids develop with it.

And then it becomes, like my thing is,

Outdoor ed needs to become an inherent part of every kid's day.

So an inherent part of your school life.

And so I try and come in with programs that work alongside teachers instead of adding another brick to their barrow.

And so I always want to be really conscious of that when I'm in schools because I know, like you said, there is so much going on for teachers.

They've got so many things to get through.

And it's just, I don't know how they do it.

say climbing trees like are kids allowed to climb trees in schools now yeah it's it's very dependent on which school and where you are I'd say it's more common now to have a tree climbing school than not which is nice um I think it's so tricky sometimes because it's like and there's there's

The fear around liability and what happens if someone falls out and breaks an arm or blah, blah, blah.

You know, like it's, there's a lot of fear around the kickback from adverse results.

So tricky decisions.

Yeah, and it's so hard because there is, you know, schools have to respond to community.

You know, like if a school isn't responding to what their community is saying and their community needs and expectations, then...

I personally think there's something inherently wrong with that.

Like schools are there to help serve the community.

And so I get when you have, there's lots of different communities.

So something like tree climbing might not fit that community's mold.