Harry Stebbings

It's an AI company, but kind of pre-gen AI.

It's an AI company, but kind of pre-gen AI.

They've done a magnificent job of hiring, doing two or three small acquisitions.

They've done a magnificent job of hiring, doing two or three small acquisitions.

And you fast forward a year, and each of those guys is running a $20 million BU.

And you fast forward a year, and each of those guys is running a $20 million BU.

And you're like, wow, that works.

And you're like, wow, that works.

Going back to the Adobe company, I don't know how they do it, but it's not more of the same.

Going back to the Adobe company, I don't know how they do it, but it's not more of the same.

If they hire more financial engineering, you just shoot it in the head.

If they hire more financial engineering, you just shoot it in the head.

They need to hire someone who says, I know where this thing needs to go.

They need to hire someone who says, I know where this thing needs to go.

which is why, going back to the first principles, that people running the company have to be good enough and close enough to the metal to themselves know what to do, at least well enough to have a product vision, hire people, as I say, maybe smaller acquisitions.

which is why, going back to the first principles, that people running the company have to be good enough and close enough to the metal to themselves know what to do, at least well enough to have a product vision, hire people, as I say, maybe smaller acquisitions.

If you're trying to do it from a McKinsey management perspective, you're doomed.

If you're trying to do it from a McKinsey management perspective, you're doomed.

Because I like what you said, you've no buttons left to press.

Because I like what you said, you've no buttons left to press.