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Harry Stebbings

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
30471 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

But I was watching this interview, speaking of inference, with someone I think from base 10.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

And they were saying that the demand for inference has grown not linearly, but combinatorially.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

And that is how we would see it progress over the next three to five years.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Do you agree with that?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Perfect competitions for these?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Will a VC subsidization of 50, 60, 70, whatever companies it is, not make it impossible for the good companies, the four or five, to progress through that cycle?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

What will determine the four or five inference companies that win versus the others that don't?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

It's that simple.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

One of your former partners tweeted last night that we're going to enter a time where only model creators access the most powerful models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

And that will power, obviously, the services and the application layer or the apps that they provide.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Do you believe that will be a world in which we exist, where model providers inherently kind of safeguard the best models for their provisioning of apps a la Claude or not?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Martin is suggesting is that in competing cases, they will offer a worse model, which gives them an advantage.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

As an example, Eleven Labs, which serves a huge amount of application layer companies, will reserve their latest models so they can offer the best customer support and then sell their older models to Sierra and Decagon so they have a worse quality model retaining the best for themselves.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Are there foundation model layer companies that are yet to be built that will be worth over $100 billion?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Does that make sense?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

It does.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

But when I hear about the capex required, I respectfully ask, do you have enough money?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

I think the $1.3 billion was... No, not today.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Yeah.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

How much money do you need, Ange?