Harvey Guillén
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And apparently,
No one questions it.
Because when Joe moves back to LA, he moves in with Dean to a condo owned by Dean's father.
So clearly, the Carney's still think their money is safe and doing well.
Which may be hard to believe, but by all accounts, Joe is nothing if not charismatic, articulate, and convincing.
And this lie is just the beginning of him putting those qualities to use.
By the spring of 1983, Joe convinces Dean and Ben to become the first two members of a new social club.
He calls it the BBC, which I promise is not a reference to anything that you may have thought about and popped into your head, nope.
It apparently comes from a restaurant that he liked in Chicago, the Bombay Bicycle Club.
He just borrowed the initials.
Now, what do they actually do?
Well, Joe says it's a social and investment club, but it's hard to pin down what that actually means because Joe's pitch to recruit members doesn't really make any sense.
He speaks in what I call startup word salad.
He waxes poetic about what he calls his paradox philosophy.
Saying things like, reality is circumstantial, black is white, and white is black.
There is no good or bad, no true or false.
Everything's about reorienting perspective.
And if that sounds like a whole lot of nothing, there's a reason for that.
But, like I said, Joe is a type of person other people just believe.
Whatever he's selling, people are buying.