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Haseeb

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1106 total appearances

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Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So that's the claim that I presume the CFTC would be making if they reject somebody who says, hey, I want to offer 50X SpaceX perps.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

It's just like, well, SpaceX is a real business and like, no, you can't do that.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Maybe eventually they will offer guidance about how to do equity perps, but it's very clear right now, they're not ready to do that yet.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Right now they're only offering crypto perps.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I'm not a lawyer.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I might be totally off on this, but this is my understanding from what I've read.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

There is no way that Coinbase goes first or that some startup goes first, right?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Or the hyperliquid US goes first.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Like there's just absolutely no way that that's how it happens.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

just because of incumbency powers.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Absolutely, absolutely.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I mean, we talk about, oh, you know, crypto is such an organized lobby and so on, but like you're, again, this is a different scale than what we're, you know, the scale of the equity markets and the scale of the commodities markets are much, much, much, much, much larger than the scale of the crypto markets.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So-

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

letting crypto bros go and beat up on each other and, you know, go get levered long and kind of go crazy.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

It's a great sandbox from the perspective of the CFTC to say, hey, let's offer these products domestically.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Let's surveil them.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Let's manage them.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Of course, these are fully KYC'd.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

CFTC surveils all these markets and can basically pull records on people if they see weird stuff happening.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Like these are not