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Haseeb

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Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And that has evolved as the carry trade has really kind of weakened because, you know, just the basis is not as strong as it once was while crypto markets are pretty bearish.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So I think this is also part of the evolution of Athena and its strategy.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And on some level, also part of the evolution of Coinbase, presumably.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So there may be something in here.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

We don't know the details yet, and I don't know the details, but there may be something in here that is responsive to the constraints placed on Coinbase via the Genius Act.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Or sorry, not the Genius Act, but the Clarity Act, right?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So Clarity kind of revises the Genius Act by restricting your ability to pay yield.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

But if it's not you paying the yield,

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

not being the issuer, if they're getting yield through some other product,

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

technically that allows them to get yield, even if it's not directly through, okay, the issuer of the stable coin paid them yield.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So there's a sort of economically equivalent transaction such that they're getting yield, but the yield is being shared between Coinbase and Athena, one can imagine.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And so economically, it's not that dissimilar from what it would look like for a stable coin to pay yield.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Now, I don't know if that's what's happening.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I'm kind of speculating, but I think there's probably an interesting story on both sides of this partnership.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Yeah, it's also possible, I mean, so Athena does have some USDTB, which holds BlackRock Biddle money market on the back end, I believe.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Yeah.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

But it's also possible that this is being offered to non-Americans or there's different versions of this for if you're American versus not American.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Because remember, the Genius Act or Android, the clarity revision to genius only applies to Americans.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And Coinbase has a lot of non-American users.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So you can still pay yield to non-Americans.