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Haseeb

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1106 total appearances

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Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So I don't think that's uniquely true right now.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I think it's that things started going down and so people sold.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And, you know, anything that would not have been explained by the price chart doesn't get more explained by looking at this.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I don't feel like we know enough.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So one, you know, filing to be able to make an offering does not mean that you have to actually do the offering.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

So he may have, again, kept his options open, want to test the market, talk to actual buyers, and then he may decide go, no go, depending on what the appetite is.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Now, that said, I think actually BitMind is situated pretty differently from strategy because of the fact that Ether has a yield.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And because Ether has a yield, you can actually pay the yield here by just selling the yield and not selling the principal.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

And so he doesn't actually have to sell any ETH, any net new ETH, in order to be able to fund this in principle, depending on how big it is.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

But this is the endgame, right?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

This is why you run a DAT and get to scale, is that you can have these very...

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

favorable financing mechanisms that are a lot better than what you and I could get if we wanted to get some leverage on something.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

We can't offer preferred stock on our crypto buys, but maybe Tom Lee can.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I think it's plausible.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I buy that story in part.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

I think, look, the reality is whether you're funding this out of staking yield or whether you're funding it out of Bitcoin, you know, sales of the underlying, the difference is really one of narrative as opposed to the underlying mechanics, right?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Because, look, if Saylor is funding through Bitcoin sales, which I think, like we said, I think he's going to learn that you cannot do that.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

You have to dilute common stock if you want to pay these dividends.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

Right.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps

But if you're doing it by selling Bitcoin, the reason why markets revolted is the story, right?