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Hayden Field

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480 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And the amount of defections, resignations, and other moves is only intensifying.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I feel like every week someone's doing a really high profile departure.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Sometimes it's every day in a week.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They always do a really dramatic announcement online, whether it's a resignation letter or...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

just a thank you to like 20 different people that they worked with.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And then there's all the pay packages at stake here.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

There's a lot of money at play, like, you know, reported billion-dollar pay packages for Meta.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Who knows how much is being offered to people at Anthropic, XAI right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Everyone just probably got rich from the SpaceX merger.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And also, they're all constantly being courted in the craziest ways, too, like Mark Zuckerberg making...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

home-cooked soup personally for engineers he was trying to recruit, and Sam Altman personally calling potential recruits.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

There's just a lot going on, and there's a lot of money changing hands.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But I do think it's important to remember that at some point, money doesn't really mean as much to a lot of these people as personal mission.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So that's what we're seeing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

A lot of people that are moving around right now from one job to another are doing it because a company no longer aligns with their personal mission or they no longer have faith in the leadership at that company.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So that's usually a lot of the motivation.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Yes, some people are leaving for like eye-popping pay packages, but I would say the majority of different...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

job moves we're seeing right now in AI have to do with more interpersonal drama or personal belief statements and people trying to kind of go where their values align.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Yes.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

You know, you would think not that much, but I will say I think that certain people have really outsized influence, and that's why certain people are seeing pay packages that reflect that.