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Hayden Field

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480 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Like, there are people that individually drove GPT-5.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

GPT-4, people that individually drove a ton of Grok stuff, like Grok Imagine.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And everyone at the company knows who those people are.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It's not like any employee at OpenAI or XAI or Anthropic or Google is going to be just worth this much money in terms of pay.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

from a CEO's perspective, I guess.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But there are a handful of people that have outsized influence and that are really good at marshalling all the other people on their team at the company.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They're really good at ideating and solving these intense problems.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

That's why some of these people's moves make headlines.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I would say almost every time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

There are a lot of people that won't say that in so many words, but they will imply it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Like the anthropic researcher that left last week that went viral online for his resignation letter.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Yeah, he went to go be a poet, so it's not like he was going to another AI company in that case.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But he did say...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

that throughout his time at Anthropic, he repeatedly saw how hard it is to let his values govern his actions, both within himself and within the organization, because he said they constantly face pressures to set aside what matters most.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So I think most people that depart these companies, I mean, some of them will just say, thanks so much, off to my next chapter.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But a lot of them will say, hey,

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

hey, my next chapter is going to be about X, Y, and Z because this is what I care a lot about.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Whether they're leaving for a nonprofit, maybe they're starting their own AI lab or their own foundation or organization that's more of a watchdog.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Maybe they're leaving for another AI lab that they specifically want to work under this person because they admire X, Y, and Z about them.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Sometimes they say outright that the other company didn't align.